Heather Dubrow Shares Audio Footage Proving Tamra Judge Called RHOC Cast “Losers” as Gina Claims She and Emily Are “Being Used” as “Collateral Damage” in Heather and Tamra’s “Bulls**t”

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Heather Dubrow shared audio footage that seemingly proves Tamra Judge indeed called the cast of Real Housewives of Orange County “losers.” Gina Kirschenheiter then reacted, claiming she and Emily Simpson are “being used” as “collateral damage” in Tamra and Heather’s “bulls**t.”

In the latest episode, Heather and Tamra were fighting over who dissed the cast with both pointing fingers at the other. At the time, Gina seemed to believe Tamra and became upset by the alleged comment. During the current season, Heather allegedly had multiple conversations with castmates while the cameras weren’t rolling, telling them what other stars were saying behind their backs.

In a preview shared by @allabouttrh on Instagram, Heather presented audio footage from Tamra’s Two Ts In A Pod podcast with Teddi Mellencamp. In the clip, her co-host claimed Tamra called the entire cast “losers.”

“She’s the one that said it,” said Heather in a conversation with Gina after sharing the clip.

During a confessional, however, Gina seemed to wonder why Heather never told her before. “If you’re my friend, you should be telling me these things.”

Gina claimed she believes Tamra probably said it – but not with “malicious intent.”

According to the 39-year-old, she and Emily are “being used” as “collateral damage” in Heather and Tamra’s “bulls**t.”

Last season on the show, Heather seemed to be calling the shots. Now, however, with the return of Tamra, the pendulum has swung in the other direction.

The Real Housewives of Orange County season 17 airs Wednesdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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