RHOC Star Heather Dubrow Shades Tamra as a Pot-Stirrer, Suggests Vicki is Two-Faced, and Teases Shannon's Secret, Plus Talks Jen Drama and "Crazy Trip"

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Heather Dubrow is criticizing Tamra Judge for stirring the pot on the currently airing season of The Real Housewives of Orange County.

During a recent interview, Heather said Tamra has spoken negatively about her on every episode thus far as she accused Vicki Gunvalson of acting one way to her face and another behind her back, commented on the secret she allegedly shared about Shannon Beador‘s relationship with John Janssen, and teased their “crazy” cast trip.

“I know that there’s a crazy trip and there’s a couple of really cool events. For me and my personal story, you’re gonna see the whole Chateau Dubrow thing unfold,” Heather said of the remaining episodes of season 17 on the July 26 episode of Access Hollywood‘s Housewives Nightcap.

As RHOC fans may have seen Heather and her husband, Dr. Terry Dubrow, sold their 22,000-square-foot mansion in Newport Beach at the end of last year for $55 million.

While there is still plenty of season left, the first half has been filled with drama surrounding Jennifer Pedranti and her relationship with Ryan Boyajian, who Tamra has slammed as a “wh-re” and accused of saying he was going to “f-ck” her.

“It’s odd that it just keeps coming up, and I think Jen is a really nice girl, and I don’t understand why this just isn’t ending,” Heather said in response to the speculation. “It seems like someone is [stirring the pot].”

On the most recent episode of RHOC, Heather was accused of gossiping about Shannon and John’s relationship, which ended weeks after filming wrapped. And, while the secret has yet to be shared, it led Shannon to say it would “destroy” them — and to break the fourth wall.

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“You’re gonna really have to watch and see how this plays out, but I think it’s very interesting. I really do because.. well, you’re just gonna have to see it,” she teased.

Heather was then asked about Vicki’s suggestion that she makes her feel “less than.”

“Every time Vicki gives an interview, she says something to that effect, and every time I see Vicki in person, we hug, we talk, we talk about her children, ‘How’s your life?’” Heather noted, confirming the two of them spent time together amid season 17 and “had a great time.”

“What I don’t understand is, how come when we’re together, you’re great, we’re fun, we’re fine, we’re having a great time, and I always walk away feeling terrific, and every time you give an interview or every time you’re with other friends, it’s a different story?” she wondered. “I think you’re seeing this season that there is a narrative being painted of me that is not necessarily true or an exaggerated version of me.”

Of that narrative, Heather said it is “sad.”

“I think that when you like someone and you want to be their friend, you understand they’ve got idiosyncrasies. Nobody’s perfect. We all have our schtick. But when you like someone you kinda forget it and it’s like, okay, roll your eyes, or ‘Yeah, that’s just her.’ And when you don’t like someone or you want to have a problem with someone, you lean in,” she noted.

Moving on to Tamra, Heather said she “100 percent” stirs the pot.

“Every episode I watch, I thought we were great through most of these periods of time, and every single episode — in her confessional or with someone else on the show — there is something negative said about me from her and it’s upsetting,” she admitted.

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As for where they stand today, Heather said that she and Tamra still text but aren’t hanging out regularly.

“We’ve been in communication with each other,” she confirmed. “We’ve known each other a long time. I care about her. I care about her family and I’m hopeful that we’ll get to a good resolve but it’s not fun to watch that stuff, and it’s hurtful.”

The Real Housewives of Orange County season 17 airs Wednesdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

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